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War bird restoration

Postby Stony Jim » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:34 pm

Don't much about airplanes. A neighbor introduced me to Grumman Torpedo Bomber a couple months ago. Not far from my house, so I have been going up on Fridays to help. This is being done by all volunteers!

It is designated "TBM Avenger, Number N40402". Belongs to The Commemorative Air Force National Capitol Squadron in Culpepper, VA.

They have been working on about a year, expect to take 4 to 5 years to complete.
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When it is done, it will be as near to factory original as possible and it will be flown.
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Re: War bird restoration

Postby Johnson » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:25 am

Man oh Man,
Takes up a fair amount of Real Estate in the Shop.
Is it @ your neighbors place or some old hanger/Repair facility?

Looks like a fun project to be involved in! :mrgreen:
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Re: War bird restoration

Postby Stony Jim » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:14 pm

Johnson wrote:Man oh Man,
Takes up a fair amount of Real Estate in the Shop.
Is it @ your neighbors place or some old hanger/Repair facility?

Looks like a fun project to be involved in! :mrgreen:


This is at a repair facility. Yes, it takes up a lot of space!
This also the second one he has done. :D
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Re: War bird restoration

Postby Stony Jim » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:17 pm

Going to provide a link giving a short history of this plane.
http://www.capitalwing.org/TBM_ovw.asp?menuID=20~20~21~21
Shows a pic of it in it's fire fighting clothes.
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Re: War bird restoration

Postby Stony Jim » Sat Dec 26, 2009 3:12 pm

Not much getting done this week.
Here is a Pic of LB holding the bucking bar inside. Look to her right and see a completed flush patch from the inside.
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Here is the same patch from the outside
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And one of me with the rivet gun.
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Hope they show up Tue. Ran up there last Tue and no one there :(
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Re: War bird restoration

Postby Ron in NS » Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:24 pm

I used to do that kind of repair work when I was a fitter at the place where I still work. For about 12 years I built and repaired flight controls for different aircraft. I have made a lot of those kinds of patches over the years. Nowadays, I plan them.
I even helped my dad build a Midget Mustang before he passed away, all aluminum construction.
I miss working on the bench doing that stuff. I'd love to be able to go back and do it again.

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Re: War bird restoration

Postby Stony Jim » Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:46 pm

Hi Ron!
The most of these flush patches we are doing is replacing scabs that the former owners slapped on so they could fly.
All of the holes so far are from modifications over the years.
The Museum wants as near factory original as possible. Gonna be a long job!
This is the second Avenger this man has restored.
The first one can be found here:
http://www.maam.org/aircraft/tbm.html
They spent 7 years on it!
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Re: War bird restoration

Postby Russ/ks » Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:01 pm

Jim and LB, that is one heckuva real priviledge to see you folks working on such a project. Thanks a bunch for posting pics, i hope you can give us some progress reports as you go.
I have riveted like that for many a year, but only on semi trailers. LB, are you wearin ear plugs? LOLOL. Those air hammers can put out some noise. :wink:
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Re: War bird restoration

Postby Stony Jim » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:00 am

Those two pics were posed. Yes we were wearing ear plugs while working! Gets awful load inside that aluminum can!
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Re: War bird restoration

Postby Johnson » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:21 pm

I discovered while taking my turn to Skin a grain trailer that a air Hammer with the quick release and the larger variable speed(Snap-on or Mac) models ran much quieter. But then WE were doing it everyday for the summer becuase our brilliant Service manager bid grain trailer skin replacement work in a truck repair shop......Talk about a bunch of unhappy truck repair mechanics.

The noise over the 3 months Just about caused a war in the shop over the constant air hammer noise. The owner of the Company got so many complaints that he told the service manager to stop doing that work....It isn't a work environement that can be shared IMHO. But small Jobs and patching are altogether another deal.

As for this Airplane stuff....Always interesting. The links were Fun to look at.
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Re: War bird restoration

Postby Stony Jim » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:35 pm

Still patching holes on the TBM.
Thought I would post a couple pics of the turret today.
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It has been pretty well completed and sitting in storage until needed.
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The machine gun looks real, but it is made out of PVC!
They tell me it took three to get this one in decent shape. When the took them off the planes, they scrapped them which means they had to be reconstructed, straightened and pieces made that couldn't be fixed.
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Re: War bird restoration

Postby Stony Jim » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:12 pm

Been a few days since anything new has been don. today, the exhaust ports were removed in preperation for engine removal. Needed them off to avoid damage to them.
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Here they are in a pile on the floor!
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Here is a pic before the removal. Thought I already had one posted.
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Re: War bird restoration

Postby Stony Jim » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:57 pm

Well, been a while since we have been able to work on the TBM! Too much snow!
Got a wing stub to repair.
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The panel that the wing folds out against is in bad shape and the wrong gage aluminum. The bead is worn, torn, and pieces cut out and replaced.

I drilled out the rivets and got it off.
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Going to be replaced with the .040" sheet. The piece I took off is .025".
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Re: War bird restoration

Postby Stony Jim » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:48 pm

Friday, if everything goes right, the prop is going to be removed.
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It is going to be sent out to be reconditioned, needs seals as these have been leaking all over the floor :(
Next the shroud will come off, then the engine comes off to be reconditioned.

This is a pic of the prop cover.
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More Friday :D
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Re: War bird restoration

Postby Stony Jim » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:52 pm

Oops! My bad :( Thought there was a pic posted of the prop all still assembled.
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The doors will be open friday, I will try to get a better pic as I will be able to get back far enough to get it all in! :mrgreen:
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